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The Better/Harder Paradigm

  • Nov. 18th, 2007 at 11:26 AM
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I've been noticing lately that the better I get at yoga, the harder it becomes. And that frustrates me. I know it was easier before because I wasn't as strict about my form. Hell, I couldn't tell what my form looked like, because I had no way of seeing it. But once I stopped using DVDs and started doing yoga in silence, I could see my reflection in the dark television set and started working to correct my form. And now everything's harder because I'm doing it correctly instead of doing it the way that feels good. But I've been working on form for a while now, and it's still not getting any easier.

And I just realized today that this explains my current relationship to my writing. When I started out, writing was easy and fun. I'd bang stuff out, quickly and gleefully revise it, and send it out to markets -- and promptly start collecting piles of form rejections. Many stories got trunked in the process, but that was okay, because there were always many more to take their place. And some of them even sold -- two to a pro mag, a few to decent semi-pros, and a lot more to really small mags. Nowadays, I'm much more careful about what I write. Rather than say, "Aha! I have a kernel of an idea, so I'm going to start writing to see what happens!" I instead let the idea simmer for months, jotting notes down whenever a new bit occurs to me. A good 3/4 of the ideas never get turned into stories, and those that do are written slowly and laboriously in a process that is never all that much fun. But they mostly sell, and to decent semi-pro markets to boot. It's been a while since I sold to a market that I later came to regret.

So, just like with yoga, now that I'm better at writing, it's harder. What ever happened to the glee? The wild abandon? The writing binges? Why did I have to lose that as my skills improved? I realize that part of this is that I've lost a certain naiveté about the process, but does naiveté have to equal happiness?

I need to find a way to marry skill and abandon in my brain. I want to write with that same glee and speed that I had back in the beginning, but I want to produce stories at or above my current quality level. I'm just not sure how to go about doing this.

I want writing to get easier as I get better. Is that too much to ask?

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[info]apintrix wrote:
Nov. 18th, 2007 04:35 pm (UTC)
I was actually thinking about your post about reading about drug addiction... it occurred to me that making any art is sort of the opposite of hard drugs. In the latter, you get this incredible high and then you pay and pay and pay. In the former, you pay and pay and pay and then if things go well, you can get that incredible high. Hence the appeal of drugs to artists, maybe?

Well, I don't know about that, but. :) Back when I was studying cello seriously, I noticed that meaningful progress isn't like a slope, but like a series of brick walls. Things just seem harder and harder and no progress seems to be made, perhaps for a matter of years, and everything is frustrating and you become increasingly dissatisfied; and then suddenly within two weeks you see all the improvement of those years of frustration-- and it's incredibly exhilarating. When I'm struggling I like to think of the brick wall and have faith that suddenly I'm going to break through it, and then start racing to the next one. And if I'm neither struggling nor dissatisfied, I've turned away from the wall I should be facing.

Sorry, that sounds a bit new-age-y, but it was my experience. I don't know if it applies to writing, but I think it should?
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 12:06 pm (UTC)
I do find myself wondering if my writing slow-down might also be slowing down my progress over my latest brick wall. Or if perhaps instead my current brick wall is the whole lack of speed issue. Hrm.

Anyhow, thanks for the food for thought!
[info]xochiquetzl wrote:
Nov. 18th, 2007 06:50 pm (UTC)
You might want to see if your public library has a copy of Twyla Tharp's The Creative Habit you could borrow. I found it useful. I don't know if that means you will or not, though.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 12:07 pm (UTC)
I may give it a shot. Thanks!
[info]bogwitch64 wrote:
Nov. 18th, 2007 08:07 pm (UTC)
I'm pretty sure I've told you this, but I had a six year span in which I wrote 24 manuscripts. I belted out a first draft manuscript every two months. I followed a single family through four generations, a silent war and a very BIG one, as well as through three separate realities of existence. The experience was exhilarating. I had a BLAST. Of course, to revise them now into something that would actually be readable by any but my closest friends would take another decade, which is my point exactly.

Now I am lucky to get a novel manuscript out a YEAR. When it's done, it's a hell of a lot better. The process is slower, more painstaking, a bit frustrating--but infinitely better.

It reminds me of an episode of Friends (not a huge fan, but my eldest daughter was.) Did you ever see the one when Phoebe goes running with Rachel? Phoebe, to Rachel's embarrassment, runs like a happy child, waving her arms like windmills, and her feet slapping pavement as if she were wearing clown shoes. It was the sheer abandon of running without the acceptable form, pace, clothing. It was just RUNNING. Did she look like an idiot--well, yeah. And that's the thing right there.

Writing okay at a clip is like chocolate milk. Writing WELL is like good wine. I think you got it right--it's a maturity thing.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 12:09 pm (UTC)
Writing okay at a clip is like chocolate milk. Writing WELL is like good wine. I think you got it right--it's a maturity thing.

I still wish there were a way to get that wine down faster. If I want to have any hope of being a working writer, then I'll have to learn to produce rough drafts and polished revisions so much quicker than I'm doing now. I look at the output of the Stonecoast gang and am awed. Maybe I need to get a new year's resolution of writing a new short story a month and finishing up a new novel by the end of the year. I just need to figure out if those goals will kill the rest of my life.

ETA: And no, I didn't see that episode of Friends because I avoided that show like the plague. Anything marketed as, "You must watch this! It's for people just like you!" fails miserably on me, especially when the "people just like you" are anorexics living in fabulous New York apartments. Nope. Nothing like me.

Edited at 2007-11-19 12:17 pm (UTC)
[info]bogwitch64 wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 01:31 pm (UTC)
Ha! How hilarious is it that I felt the same way. Can you imagine a world like that? When even jobless and penniless, they all had awesome apartments in NYC, boho decor and looked FABULOUS? Stupid. My husband used to scoff, saying, "Life isn't like this." My eldest daughter, however, was in high school during the Friends heyday, and watched it like it was her job. I caught a few episodes by default. /g/
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 08:23 pm (UTC)
It's not my idea of enjoyable fantasy viewing ;)
[info]dotar_sojat wrote:
Nov. 18th, 2007 08:20 pm (UTC)
From my own experiences with taekwondo, the yoga issues are probably stemming from a re-defining of what you consider "good". I have a lot of beginning taekwondo students who have good kicks. But, they're good kicks for beginning students. Those same kicks are only okay for an intermediate student, and really need to be improved for an advanced student.

But then you have to factor in that by the time the beginner moves to intermediate or advanced, she's now got some bad habits in her technique, and they won't go away until she breaks the moves down to their component parts, finds where the bad habits originated, and laboriously works to re-train her brain into doing it the right way.

Writing may be the same way, when we start we have ap retty low bar for what we think "good" is, then we learn more and more about writing, what's already been written, and how the business end works, and we find ourselves being very careful about what we're willing to sink the effort (the effort to write "good" stories) into.

My 2 cents.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 12:12 pm (UTC)
Yeah, my bar for "good" is definitely higher, which explains why I have a much easier time selling stories nowadays. But I can't help but feel that it's better to produce more stories and then be selective about what gets sent out (a la Jay Lake) than it is to so strictly ration which ideas I develop.

This is clearly something I need to think about some more.
[info]writerknv wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 01:01 am (UTC)
I'm glad you wrote about this! I spent a few months earlier in the year thinking about this exact same thing, and feeling frustrated that I could no longer write as much and with as much sheer enjoyment as I used to. I thought it was just my own personal issue. :)
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 12:13 pm (UTC)
I've been struggling with this for a while, and it was just this weekend that I connected it to the issues I've been having with yoga. Argh! But still, finding patterns is a useful thing to do.
[info]matociquala wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 11:53 am (UTC)
I want writing to get easier as I get better. Is that too much to ask?

In my experience?

Yes. It just keeps getting harder and harder and harder.

Fortunately, your skills expand so you can handle the hardness of it.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 12:16 pm (UTC)
I hope my skills are expanding. The incredibly slow progress of my writing career is not at all inspiring in that regard. I suspect that's also contributing to my slow-down. Without tangible rewards, I have a difficult time driving myself to do something that's getting increasingly harder. It's a character flaw, I know, but it's been with me my entire life and I don't see it going away any time soon.
[info]matociquala wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 08:34 pm (UTC)
Alas. It is the suck. I just don't know another way.

In any case, it's a great post.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 02:00 am (UTC)
Thanks.

And yeah, I think there's some sucking up and knuckling down my near future. I may just need to bully my way through a couple of quickly-written shorts to prove to myself that writing doesn't have to be ponderous and overly-planned. The trick is to come up with ideas that don't hinge upon tons of character development, which has been my real sticking point of late.
[info]jimvanpelt wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 10:14 pm (UTC)
Interesting post, since I've noticed the same thing in myself.

What has worked for me is to intentionally break my rhythm. When I start slowing down (like spending two hours to complete 200 words), I try pounding out a flash fiction, something under 1,000 words that is a complete story. The one-sitting story seems to loosen me and tells me it's okay to write "below standard."

Anna Lamott called this "shitty first drafts," which I have to remind myself are fine to do, and sometimes necessary. The search for the first words to be the right words bogs me down.
[info]jeffsoesbe wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 11:59 pm (UTC)
At Viable Paradise, Teresa Nielsen Hayden said "I give you permission to write crap."

I see this as saying that sometimes you just need to clear out the logjam (drainscum, gutblock, constipation, pineapple) of bad words and new clean stuff will come.

And, if it's crap then you can *definitely* make it better. Definitely.

- yeff
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 02:05 am (UTC)
True, but I find that it's nearly impossible for me to revise plot. All I can manage is to refine plot. So unless my crap writing has a solid skeleton, I don't end up with a story I can use. It's damned annoying. I'm a plastic surgeon, not an orthopedic surgeon.
[info]jeffsoesbe wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 05:22 pm (UTC)
Revising plot - yow. I can haul out the old saw "Character drives plot, plot defines character" but that might not be much help.

I do agree that a story needs a solid backbone. It's what I try to understand before I really get going. Beginning, end, stops along the way. It's like planning a road trip and then I start driving. And I get distracted. And I linger. And I stop for a soda, or a snack.

I definitely agree on the "it just gets harder" aspect. I feel like I'm in a decent place with my writing, but if I want to get better (and move to where I want to be) it's going to be difficult. It's going to be a challenge. It's going to be hard.

I guess that aspect is what makes it worth the effort.

- yeff
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 02:02 am (UTC)
I'm familiar with the shitty first drafts paradigm. The problem I've had lately is that it takes an awfully long time for me to think up and think through a plot that I feel is worth committing a shitty first draft upon. I used to be able to whip up plots so much faster. Mind you, they weren't particularly good plots...

But I did pull off a one-sitting story recently. Mind you, it was mostly cribbed off of the back of a bottle of cough syrup. But still!
[info]unhappytriad wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 12:30 am (UTC)
My favorite martial arts quotation:

"Commonly, students' ability to see their errors and technical failings increases faster than their ability to correct them. Then the instructor faces the problem of discouraged students who believe they are actually getting worse through training rather than better....An analogy that may help the intermediate student is that of 'carving a cube into a sphere'. Training is the process of chopping off corners. Initially, the corners are large and easy to see--as is progress. Later, each corner cut off reveals three new corners, albeit smaller ones. This process is endless, and while
an advanced student may appear to others of lesser experience to be a
perfect sphere, the individual is often painfully aware of the many corners that still need polishing."
--Elmar T. Schmeisser, "The University Dojo" in _Martial Arts Teachers on Teaching_, Carol A. Wiley, ed.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 02:06 am (UTC)
Annoyingly, I don't have this problem with bellydancing. Yeah, there are things I stink at, and I'm working on them, but I definitely feel like I'm getting steadily better with each class session.
[info]fireflykiwi wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 02:29 am (UTC)
It's amazing how when you write, you feel like your the only one going through these ups and downs. I'm glad to see that I am not the only one that thinks this way.

This is the second year I am participating in Nanwrimo, but it is my third novel and while I am enjoying writing it, I have noticed that it is a bit more difficult than it was previously.

Oh and I have to ask. The second tag line on your journal...are you a duran duran fan?
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 03:22 am (UTC)
Oh and I have to ask. The second tag line on your journal...are you a duran duran fan?

Hells yeah! I've only seen them twice in concert -- once when I was 15, once when I was 35. The creepy thing the second time was realizing that I was the same age as my parents were when I saw them the first time.
[info]fireflykiwi wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 01:46 pm (UTC)
I saw them for the first time when they started the Astronaut Tour (yippie for seeing the original 5 together and not having to suffer through Warren C.)

My LJ is littered with lyrics from them. :)

I haven't had a chance to get my hands on the new album yet, though I have heard the songs that JT worked on and they aren't that bad. What disturbed me more was that they worked with Timbland.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 05:23 pm (UTC)
It took me a minute to realize that "JT" wasn't John Taylor. So my first thought was, "Cool! He's writing lyrics for DD now!"

And when I saw them on the Astronaut tour, they had the back-up guitarist playing. Is it me, or does Andy look like he crawled into a bag of heroin during his decade or so off from the band? It makes me think that his recent "illnesses" were rehab-related.
[info]fireflykiwi wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 05:34 pm (UTC)
Yeah, both John and Justin use the same moniker. And who knows, John may have had a hand in the recent lyrics. Have you heard any of his solo stuff?

I always thought Andy looked like he crawled out of something that wasn't too pleasant.

Sorry for gushing on about DD. Everyone here looks at me like I am crazy when I even mention the group. Don't get that many opportunities to share a fangirl moment.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Nov. 21st, 2007 04:15 am (UTC)
I have John's solo album, and was underwhelmed by it, which is sad, because he was "my" Duran. Also, he was aging really well for a while, but now it's starting to go drastically wrong. Roger's the one who's held up the best out of the lot of them, which I suspect has a lot to do with him not being into drugs like the rest of them were, and keeping out of the limelight for a while.

And yes, I never understood Andy's appeal. But man, did things go drastically wrong with his face while he was away from the band.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 03:24 am (UTC)
And, I have to say, that I'm disturbed that they've recorded this new one with Justin Timberlake. The only good thing that man has done is "Dick in a Box." I suspect he's back to his old slick, squeaky-voiced man-child tricks on the DD2 album, alas. I remember Roger Taylor slagging Timberlake back when their last album came out. Too bad they made him drink the Kool-Aid.
[info]pxcampbell wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 03:39 am (UTC)
Yanno, I think it will.

Confidence has a wonderful way of making things easier, for one thing.

Also, as you completely internalize things, it does become easier.

I think the thing to do is seize upon the flashes of glee that come now... and I wager you'll see that said glee derives from the coming together of things to create some better than you could ever do when you were an ignorant wannabe.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 04:01 am (UTC)
Glee. Need to find glee. Need to put glee into writing.

Where are you, glee?

Perhaps I should check under the sofa.

You know, I used to write about characters that I either wanted to play, or that I had crushes on. So, of course, they were very Mary Sue-ish. But I was emotionally invested in the stories. There's got to be a way to get some of that back without delving back into Mary Sue.
[info]pxcampbell wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 04:19 am (UTC)
Ha! Write the first draft as Mary Sue. The pull the legs off the Barbie doll in the second draft. That could be a double dose of glee -- the joy of writing the fantasy and the thrill of Ultimate Power as cause your Mary Sue's life to fall apart and then deftly put the pieces back together.

Like vanilla and chocolate.

Sodom and Gamorrahh (sp?).



[info]jenwrites wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 12:30 pm (UTC)
Bwah ha ha!

And that's essentially what I'm doing in my current revision of Chameleon. And what I did when I revised "Brushstrokes." The trouble with both is that I didn't recognize the Mary Sue/Mary Sue's boy toy problems until *after* I showed the MS to the writing group. Urgh.

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