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Having heard many good things about Kazuo Ishiguro's book Never Let Me Go, I checked it out of the library recently, and started reading it last night. It's clearly a science fiction novel, but it's written to placate people who hate science fiction. And as such, it's driving me mad.

I'm going to willfully spoil this book at this point without a cut tag, if only to warn other science fiction fans away from it.

The book opens up talking about "carers" and "donors" in England in the late 1990s, leading us to believe that this book is either alternate history or about some seedy underground practices that remained hidden to the mainstream. Then, it flashes back to the childhood of the protagonist, going on and on and on about childhood trivialities at the boarding school where she grew up. It's not until 1/4 of the way through the book that the children (and us) are told outright that they have no futures, and that once they become adults, they'll slowly have their organs harvested.

1/4 of the way through the book! Gah!

I've made it to the halfway point, and I still have no idea why people are being raised as organ donors. Why? Because the book is both claustrophobic in its focus, and the POV character is disinterested in the world outside. The claustrophobia comes in the settings. Part 1 takes place entirely on the grounds of the boarding school, and Part 2 takes place (so far) strictly at the protagonist's post-school home. We don't get to see what's happened to the rest of the world that's made them so desperate for organs that they've turned people into cattle. And the POV character (and just about all the other students around her) are given opportunity after opportunity to ask questions, but they don't. Worse, they then spend time privately mooning over why they didn't think to ask that question that they really wanted to have answered. What do they do? They worry about grades, teachers, and sex.

Bo-ring!

This is supposed to be science fiction! You're supposed to tell us all the cool stuff that's happening in this crazy world you've invented! If there's no compelling reason to keep something from the readers, then why on earth would you do so? That's why we read science fiction, after all. If I wanted to read teenagers worrying about grades, teachers, and sex, then I'd read a mainstream YA novel. And if I wanted to read about people having questions but being too lazy to ask them, then I'd read... No, I can't imagine wanting to read about that.

I'm done with this book. I'm going to look up spoilers on the internet to find out what happened to the world to make it so organ-hungry, and what Madame is doing with her art collection, and then I'm going to read some science fiction that isn't afraid of what it is.

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[info]kissoflife wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 05:26 pm (UTC)
Short corroborating excerpt: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4629918
I admit, I was thinking I might be more of a suspense and 'hanging on in quiet desperation' fan than you here,('Remains of the Day' drove me nuts the first time, but is enjoyable second time through), but in fact, yeah, ick. The adolescent rambling narrative is excruciating in this.
But now I'll admit to heresy and note that I hated this aspect of Buffy too. I hate this 'voice' in general.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 06:46 pm (UTC)
I liked it in Buffy because it was so cleverly written. Also, there was always plot happening around it. Never a dull moment at a Hellmouth. Plenty of dull moments in this book.
[info]michaeldthomas wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 05:36 pm (UTC)
Wasn't that the gimmick of Parts: The Clonus Horror and The Island?

[info]caryabend wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 06:21 pm (UTC)
The kicker in The Island was that they were bred and taught to be intellectually passive and/or incurious. Changes in the production methods for Lincoln's generation awakened that aspect through an unanticipated memory transfer process, especially for Lincoln, since his template was an engineer who liked solving problems (and fast moving vehicles). Questions were deliberately repressed, because they would have led to exactly the ending we got. :)
[info]apintrix wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 06:04 pm (UTC)
Yeah. I love "Remains of the Day", but I *hate* "Never Let Me Go". It's terrible SF! Totally implausible and not adequately explored! Gah.

Don't count on any explanations from the net either. Just put it down. :)
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 06:47 pm (UTC)
I read somewhere that the end of the book explained things, so I skipped ahead to the chapter where they meet Madame, read it, and was underwhelmed. Yes, time to move on to Maggie's novel.
[info]fjm wrote:
Mar. 1st, 2009 09:13 am (UTC)
Read the book, was bored rigid, and the world makes no sense.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Mar. 1st, 2009 02:40 pm (UTC)
I only made it as far as the halfway point because it was the only book I had on me at the laundromat, and it was marginally better than staring at the dryers.
[info]windrose wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 06:11 pm (UTC)
My advice? Watch REPO! THE GENETIC OPERA instead.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 06:47 pm (UTC)
I want to, but it keeps showing when I can't see it! They showed it at Arisia...opposite one of my panels. Gah!
[info]windrose wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 07:04 pm (UTC)
It's been on pay-per-view here, which is how I finally saw it.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 07:21 pm (UTC)
It keeps showing at midnight festivals out here, but I'm generally too lazy to haul ass out of the house that late at night. Pay-per-view is a good idea. I'll check and see if we have it out here.
[info]drglam wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 07:56 pm (UTC)
Also, it's out on DVD, and can be rented. Or borrowed (from, say, my living room).
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 08:03 pm (UTC)
*eyes lighting up*

Mind you, pay-per-view is the nice, lazy option :)
[info]orogeny wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 06:25 pm (UTC)
Another example of mainstream lit coopting something SF professionals have been doing much better for many years.
[info]hirez wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 06:35 pm (UTC)
Perhaps a case of $Author looking at ${Genre considered by them to be less worthy than their own} and going 'Anyone could crank out that sort of rubbish'?

Musicians seem to do it a lot. (Techno? Rubbish. It just goes 'momp momp momp', there's no skill to it, etc.)

It fails a bit with art, mind. (But a child of five could have done that!)
[info]mishaslair wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 07:08 pm (UTC)
In principal, I don't have problems with mainstream writers using SFnal ideas in mainstream lit* -- in fact, I kind of like a good piece of literary fiction with a bit of weirdness written in -- but it sounds like this one was badly, badly written. I'm sorry you wasted time on it.

*But I'm not as closely tied to an identity as either a genre reader or writer these days -- in fact, the stuff I'm writing at present is only vaguely genre if at all -- so that may be coloring my perception. I certainly understand why people get pissed off about mainstream authors co-opting SFnal ideas but still trying to relegate SF authors to the genre ghetto.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 07:23 pm (UTC)
This is a bit of weirdness that the author and his characters keep flinching from, which is just maddening. I cannot for the life of me understand why this book was so acclaimed. Any plot that can be cleared up by someone asking a question and getting an honest answer to me is not a plot at all.
[info]drjamez wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 07:18 pm (UTC)
I tend to agree with your analysis, but I have mixed feelings.

For one, if this book proves to be a "starter book" that drags non-Sci-Fi readers into checking out harder Sci-Fi, then I am all for it. I think the same could be said of The Time Traveler's Wife, for example. Sometimes, I enjoy laughing at people who were "suckered" into one story, only to find out by the end that it was Sci-Fi all along (re: Vanilla Sky, a "chick-flick" that takes a rather hard Sci-Fi turn - I can only imagine how date night turned out when unsuspecting parties realized that the movie wasn't just another Tom Cruise suspense-romantic-whatever film).

Secondly, sometimes I find it refreshing to see that the human condition, complete with mundane concerns, remains intact even in a world of Sci-Fi. Granted, this has been done many times to great success even in the midst of the most alien landscapes, but every now and then I like to see that humans in alternate timelines or the future still wrestle with sex issues, racism, financial strife and other societal ills that seemingly were (largely) wiped out in, say, Star Trek; The Next Generation.

Still, a boring story is a boring story no matter the trappings. That's arguably the biggest sin an author could commit in any tale.

- James -
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 07:25 pm (UTC)
If he hadn't bored me, I wouldn't be ranting. But he did. The day-to-day concerns of the characters aren't particularly interesting, and the only narrative thread holding them together is The Big Mystery that We Can't Bother to Talk About. As I said in a comment to another poster, any plot that can be resolved by one character asking another character a question and getting an honest answer is a lame plot.
[info]drjamez wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 07:39 pm (UTC)
True, but it did work for Seinfeld. ;-)

- James -
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 08:03 pm (UTC)
Which probably explains why I could never get into it.
[info]evil_macaroni wrote:
Mar. 1st, 2009 02:20 am (UTC)
I had a similar amount of scorn for Margaret Atwood's _Oryx and Crake_. My father-in-law kept trying to push it on us (and I did read it) but it was a trite book (science has negative consequences: gee, what a novel theme!) and unsympathetic characters. I got the feeling it was written exactly because it was targeted to the Lit crowd who think all sci-fi is trash. *seethe*
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Mar. 1st, 2009 02:42 pm (UTC)
Didn't Margaret Atwood vociferously deny being a science fiction writer at about the time that this book came out? I wonder how much of O&C was written to alienate the SF crowd.
[info]evil_macaroni wrote:
Mar. 1st, 2009 03:24 pm (UTC)
Yeah, though she's OK with the term "speculative fiction". The scientists, FWIW, are the world-destroying villains.

From Atwood's site:

Like The Handmaid's Tale, Oryx and Crake is a speculative fiction, not a science fiction proper. It contains no intergalactic space travel, no teleportation, no Martians. As with The Handmaid's Tale, it invents nothing we haven't already invented or started to invent. Every novel begins with a what if, and then sets forth its axioms. The what if of Oryx and Crake is simply, What if we continue down the road we're already on? How slippery is the slope? What are our saving graces? Who's got the will to stop us?

[info]jenwrites wrote:
Mar. 1st, 2009 11:23 pm (UTC)
She's the one who complained about "space squid," leading to the most awesome magazine of the same name :)

http://www.spacesquid.com/
[info]awdrey_gore wrote:
Mar. 1st, 2009 05:50 am (UTC)
I loved this book for many reasons that I won't go into here, but I disagree that this novel was an attempt to placate genre readers or that this is a book that was afraid to be what it was. It never claimed to be a sci-fi book. It was far more a book of personal reaction, alienation and of the outsider's view of the world, using a dystopia in the course of doing so.

But it is important, I think, to know that Ishiguro himself did not see Never Let Me Go as a sci-fi novel. I see this less as a genre fail than a misrepresentation to readers by forces outside Ishiguro's control. That it was touted by many as sci-fi reveals either the industry inability to see past genre tropes (OMG CLONES!) or fans so pleased to see a sci-fi trope used in a literary novel meant to be a character exploration that they missed the true purpose of the book and recommended it to others as a sci-fi book. Had someone told you that this was more in the tradition of Dostoevsky or Kafka, I think that would have been a far better representation of the book.

My two cents.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Mar. 1st, 2009 02:46 pm (UTC)
See, I like the novel you're describing, but it doesn't match what I read in the first half before giving up. What I read about were children and adolescents who were removed from the world, but didn't much care about what was going on in it. All they cared about was their unremarkable present, and didn't even care to ask questions about their futures. I had to intuit that there was some sort of dystopia, but I never saw it. If the characters had been preoccupied with more interesting things, I would have kept reading, but I couldn't find any reason to care about Kathy's mundane concerns. If I'd gone to school with Kathy, I never would have been her friend, because I would have found her dull.
[info]lasayla wrote:
Mar. 1st, 2009 11:17 pm (UTC)
See, I loved it, but I had completely different expectations going in. It wasn't sold as sci-fi, just as lit-fic and - unusually for me - I was completely unspoiled beyond knowing that it was an Ishiguro novel.

So, having read Remains Of the Day, my expectations were that it would be mostly told in flashback. That it would be written in first person, but that I would find the supporting characters more interesting than the protagonist. That there would be lots of lyrical musings on identity, nostalgia, lost opportunities and the nature of memory. That the protagonist would be entirely wrapped up in their interactions with the other characters and oblivious to important political events except as they related to those characters. That the protagonist would also be deliberately selecting which memories were presented to the reader and that the key to understanding the book would be realising what had been left out and why. That there would be doomed love and a bittersweet ending.

I can see how it would be annoying if you went in expecting a sci-fi examination of cloning and got endless flashbacks of self-absorbed characters and failed relationships, but if you go into it expecting those things? It really is an awesome book.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Mar. 1st, 2009 11:27 pm (UTC)
I've never read any of his work before. All I knew was that this was highly lauded literary science fiction, and I was intrigued by the concept. Perhaps if the POV character had an interesting POV, I would have stuck through to the end, but she bored me to tears. And I'm not a fan of the slow reveal unless it serves some greater purpose, like to show that the character is flinching away from remembering something horrible, something that is too much for them to face, because they are so deeply ashamed/afraid of this thing that it's nearly destroyed them. But to make it be arbitrary? Nope, I don't like it.

But clearly, I am in the minority (although perhaps not in this thread) in that opinion.
[info]morgan_dhu wrote:
Mar. 2nd, 2009 04:40 am (UTC)
I loved this book myslef, but then, I love Ishiguro. He has this thing in how he constructs his POV characters of being able to show you how people have been co-opted into supporting, even embracing, their own oppression and exploitation even though they are completely unaware of being oppressed and exploited, that makes me want to jump into the book and shake the characters and scream at them to wake up and see what is being done to them.

Which then makes me think about how I may have been co-opted into doing the same thing myself.

I find his stuff profoundly political in the deepest of ways, which could be part of why I love his work so much.

I agree he takes a long time to give you enough through the limited viewpoint of the POV characters so you can see what lies behind their own, generally quite limited interests and lives.

He's all about people not daring to examine their circumstances and being afraid to challenge themselves. Depressing and maddening, but I still like it.
[info]jenwrites wrote:
Mar. 2nd, 2009 12:50 pm (UTC)
I guess if it works for him to write all his books exactly the same way, then he should keep doing that, but man, it sounds stagnant to me. Maybe that's why I'm a short fiction writer -- so I can keep doing new things every time I write.
[info]krylyr wrote:
Mar. 3rd, 2009 12:04 am (UTC)
So...I should watch The Island instead?
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